Bollyn on the criminal network behind 9/11

Paula Zahn: You hear this stuff, and it just makes you sick to your stomach! There is absolutely no evidence! That anybody other than al-Qaeda was involved with this attack!

Green: Absolutely no evidence!

Bollyn: Right! 

Green: So your challenge now. Israeli involvement in 9/11. Give me, let’s just do the top ten. You don’t have to get into all the details. People can watch your presentations and read your books, which they absolutely should! They should know, everybody should know this information. But, let’s go, ten bullet points of undisputed evidence. (...)

Michael Chertoff and other Top Connections

Green: What would you say is some more top connections?

Bollyn: Well, then you have the role of Michael Chertoff. In 1993 there was the first bombing of the World Trade Center, where a car bomb went off, in which the FBI was very much involved in the operation. That was like a sting operation. The FBI paid this Egyptian Colonel, Salem, a million dollars to testify against the, you know, motley crew he had collected around him, including the “blind Sheikh”. These people went to jail for like, five thousand years!

Michael Chertoff was a key person in the prosecution, from New Jersey. And, because the case had it’s roots, … The conspiracy apparently had it’s roots in New Jersey, according to the operation. Michael Chertoff, then, fast forward few years, is then the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, responsible for, … he was given the portfolio for investigating 9/11, the 9/11 crime. But rather than investigate it, he allowed the evidence to be destroyed.

Now Michael Chertoff, you have to understand, is a son of the Mossad. He’s an Israeli-American. His mother was an Israeli citizen, which makes him an Israeli citizen. His mother was one of the first Mossad agents in Israel.

Green: You write about that in your book. She worked for the airlines that brought all the people from, …

Bollyn: Right! From Yemen. “Operation Magic Carpet”, I think it was called. So, …

Green: And isn’t his dad a Talmudic scholar?

Bollyn: Was. Yes, yes, that’s right. Rabbi Chertoff. And so, Michael Chertoff plays a key role in the prosecution that didn’t happen! The investigation that was a non-investigation! That’s really important to understand, because if 9/11 had been investigated by any competent law enforcement in this country, the game would have been up!

So they had to make sure that there was no proper investigation! So what did they do? Instead of calling it a “crime”, they called it an “act of war”, already on September 11th! By calling it an act of war, it meant that the military would be the instrument used to deliver justice. So that there would be no investigation. So then, Michael Chertoff basically facilitated the cover-up by confiscating evidence in the form of video tapes, and steel, and engine parts, whatever.

Green: Detainees. Israeli spies, …

Bollyn: All that! And then facilitating the cover-up. So, and he’s a key person. The operation could not have gone ahead had they not made sure that they had absolute 100% security in the form of control of US law enforcement.

Green: And Michael Chertoff’s cousin was at “Popular Mechanics” working on “debunking” 9/11.

Bollyn: Right.

Green: And you were the one that called his mom and found that they were related, and she said, “Yes”. And it’s so funny, because you go to the debunking articles and they say:

“Well, Michael Chertoff wasn’t even at the Homeland Security until several years after that!”

So yeah, he wasn’t the head of Homeland Security, but what position was he on 9/11? Number two at the FBI?

Bollyn: Michael Chertoff?

Green: Yeah.

Bollyn: He was Assistant Attorney General, and he was in charge of the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice. And he was the one that was given — John Ashcroft, who was Attorney General, gave the portfolio to Chertoff. Chertoff had the final say in all decisions regarding 9/11 investigation.

Then later, he became head of Homeland Security. The second one I think, and in that position he maintained his control over the evidence of 9/11.

The Cover-up and Destruction of Evidence

That’s very important, because the 9/11 crime, you have to look at the cover-up and the destruction of evidence. And there again you find that the network that destroyed the evidence, and the junkyards that were responsible for the destruction of evidence are, were, under control of Israeli zionists.

Green: Okay, so Michael Chertoff, all his connections, the junkyards, also Ptech, who’s Ptech?

Bollyn: Ptech was the little enterprise software company in Quincy, Massachusetts, who had their software running on all of the Federal computers on 9/11, military computers. And they had spent two years in the basement of the FAA with Mitre corporation. Checking to see the interoperability between the FAA and military, in the event of a catastrophe, just like this one. And the computer network and the computer system failed on 9/11, obviously.

Green: And the security company at the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center and at the airports.

Bollyn: Yeah. There’s two different security companies. At the airports it was Huntley USA, which is an Israeli owned company, owned by ICTS in Holland. And that’s a Mossad LL security company from the beginning. And they controlled airport security, and passenger screening operations, at the airports involved in 9/11.

Then at the World Trade Center, the company that was responsible for security procedures was a company called “Kroll Associates”. Which is, again, owned by Jules Kroll, and involved Maurice Greenberg. These are again, high-level zionists. And the Israeli guys that tried to get the security contract for the World Trade Center, Avram Shalom Bendor, had gone to work for Kroll associates after 1993.

Green: So they still got it, even though they had it cancelled in ‘87?

Bollyn: Yeah, they got it through using an American trojan horse.

Green: And they finally got it and then pulled it off, shortly after.

Philip Zelikow and the “9/11 Commission Report”

Bollyn: It looks that way. Philip Zelikow is a very zionist guy, he had a lot of power in creating George Bush in the beginning, creating George Bush’s Presidency. But when they wanted to do 9/11, … you know, a year later, more than a year later, when they wanted to set up as 9/11 Commission to basically write the myth, they first went to Kissinger. But Kissinger didn’t want to reveal his client list, so then the second choice was Philip Zelikow.

And so Philip Zelikow became the executive director of the 9/11 Commission Report. And he came to the table, with a fully detailed outline of what the Commission report would say in the end, before the Commission even began meeting!

And Mr Philip Zelikow, he’s a jewish fellow from Texas, or from Southern California — both places he’s lived and studied. When he got his degree, I think his PhD. His PhD was on the “creation and maintenance of the public myth”. And that’s what he created with the 9/11 Commission Report.

So it’s like, when I wrapped up, when I concluded my “Solving 9/11” book, finally in 2011, I wanted to investigate how the deception was contained by the destruction of evidence, and the cover-up. And that’s really important. Like Nixon said:

“It’s not the crime you catch, it’s the cover-up!”

Because in the cover-up you see all of the key players. They have to reveal themselves. It’s the same thing with the media in this country. You know, the media has been complicit in the 9/11 cover-up! They can never come back, they can never redeem themselves to the American people! They have been part of the betrayal!

Green: That’s how I know 9/11 is a conspiracy, because you do the research, like we’re talking about zionists fingerprints all over it! Everywhere you look, from top to bottom, going back thirty years. And then you hear the media at CNN say:

“There’s absolutely no evidence!”

They’re obviously lying and not even being objective, even 1% objective!

Bollyn: Right.

Green: So you’re right. The cover-up is the biggest evidence of 9/11. Even more in your face than the buildings blowing up and coming down free fall, I believe.

Bollyn: Yes. Because you see, it’ll take some real investigation to find out who put the nano-thermite in the World Trade Center, where the nano-thermite was made, etc. You know, finding the fingerprints of the actual criminals involved in the crime, that’s harder to do! But the people who are involved in the cover-up, in the deception, and taking the country to war, based on the lie, that’s all very clear!

The Need for a Real Investigation of 9/11 and Cover-up

So what we really need is a huge investigation in this country, in which all of the people who are involved in the 9/11 crime and cover-up, are arrested, and charged, and investigated thoroughly!

Like Chertoff! To find out who was calling the shots, and connecting the network. And that requires something no less than a political revolution in this country. Because it would stand the entire power structure on it’s head!

That’s why I’m saying that, you know, we don’t have a lot of hope that within, … it’s like, we live in an occupied government right now, we live in a government that’s occupied! Our nation’s occupied! And trying to work within this occupied government for 9/11 truth, when the whole deck is stacked against you, is very difficult!

That’s why it’s going to take a real revolution of awareness, a popular revolution!

Green: When you Google 9/11 conspiracies, one of the first things that’s gonna come up is “Snopes”. And it’s gonna be an article saying that:

The 4,000 Israelis Who Didn’t Show Up on 9/11?

“It’s debunked. That conspiracy theorists believe that 4,000 Israelis didn’t show up to work that day.”

I’m sure you’ve heard about this. Where did that originate? Do you know?

Bollyn: Yeah, the story about the 4,000 Israelis who were thought to be at the World Trade Center, or at the Pentagon on 9/11, came from the Israeli Foreign Ministry itself. And it was reported by “Jerusalem Post” online. And the editor of the newspaper said later, that this has been, they were completely accurate in the reporting.

So 4,000 families in Israel contacted the foreign ministry asking about their loved ones, and that’s the source of that. It’s nothing Arabic about it! It comes straight from the Israeli government itself. And combine that with the Odigo instant messaging service, that had a warning that went out several hours before 9/11, that warned of an attack at the World Trade Center, and was precise to the minute! Those two facts together indicate that, that warning went out, was received, and many people escaped injury that day.

Green: So there is some truth to the 4,000 claim, or was that purposely put out to be disinfo, a red herring?

Bollyn: No! That’s completely true about the 4,000. I mean, as reported in the “Jerusalem Post”. It came from the, … the source is the Israeli Foreign Ministry itself.

Green: Okay. And it came from family members in Israel calling, …

Bollyn: Yeah!

Green: And finding out that:

“Oh! They didn’t go that day!”

Like they’re all like Silverstein?

Bollyn: Well, they were wondering, they were calling the Foreign Ministry to find out what was the status, if they had information about that person, one of those 4,000 people. And the instant messaging seems to have worked, in that many Israelis seem to have gotten a message to stay away from the World Trade Center that day.

Green: Only two people came forward as reported and, …

Bollyn: Two people in Israel got the message. The vice-president of the company said the warning was precise, to the minute. This was only reported in a few, Haaretz newspaper, and maybe in the New York Times once, or The Washington Post once, and never reported again. The whole story about the prior warning from Odigo, and the indication, the evidence, that Israelis were warned ahead of time, was never discussed again.

Green: But there’s no evidence!

Bollyn: No evidence, yeah! [being sarcastic]

CNN with Michael Gross Saying Jews are being Scapegoated

Paula Zahn: How upsetting is this to you?

Michael Gross: Look, we’ve been kicked around for 2,000 years! The face you’re looking at, it’s got a lot of anger in it, because of that! That’s not a way to live, wandering around the globe, never having a home! It’s pretty difficult, because every time there’s trouble, we’re scapegoated! We’re not the only ones that are scapegoated, but we’re scapegoated!

By people who are frightened! They don’t care! They are paranoid! You cannot debunk this theory! It is madness, as well as idiocy, to think that the jews brought down the World Trade Center on 9/11! But you cannot argue logic to someone who is mentally ill! What frightens me is that the whole nation is frightened, and that fear is being fueled by this administration, and by the media, …

Green: Who is this guy?

Bollyn: Michael Gross, a constitutional lawyer, it says.

Green: I’ve never seen him any other time, besides this.

Bollyn: No, I haven’t either.

Green: But it’s weird that he comes on and just, … first of all they’re on a panel with CNN. Everybody is against the conspiracy. Why don’t they have you in the studio to actually have a rebuttal to his arguments?

Bollyn: Right. Well if you look at this CNN piece, you see how they try to set me up. They asked me if I was anti-semitic. I said:

“No. This is what they say when you criticize Israeli policy.”

Then they cut and go to that woman from the ADL, who says:

“That’s what they all say!”

Paula Zahn: When you imply that somehow Israelis were involved in the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, people are gonna look at you, critics will say:

“You are an anti-semite!”

Are you?

Bollyn: No, I’m not an anti-semite! This is the main charge that’s leveled against me, and has been for years, even before 9/11, because I am a critic of zionist policies.

Deborah Lauter: That’s a very common technique among anti-semites, they will twist things.

“I’m not an anti-semite, I just believe XYZ!”

Bollyn: So it’s with video editing, that’s been done by CNN, this is a hit piece! And this piece aired on TV the night before I was supposed to go on trial.

Criticism of Israel and Jews involved in 9/11 is “Anti-semitic”!

Green: Elaborating on the whole “anti-semitic” thing. It’s like literally any criticism of Israel to them, or criticism of people behind 9/11, is anti-semitic. So according to them, they can’t do anything wrong, and there’s nothing, no legitimate criticisms. That’s literally what they, …

Bollyn: That’s not quite what they’re saying. What they’re saying though, is that you cannot criticize Israel, you cannot criticize Israeli crimes. You cannot criticize jewish crimes, or you cannot identify them as being Israeli, or jewish crimes. They’re protected! That’s what they’re saying.

They’re not saying that jews, or Israel doesn’t commit crimes. In my “Solving 9/11” book I have a quote from the former chief of staff of the Israeli military, who says:

“That if the truth ever comes out, …” he says “… you will see that Israel has been involved in crimes a thousand times worse than anything going on in Colombia!”

He’s talking about the Colombia drug trade. So it’s not like Israel doesn’t commit crimes. It’s that they want to make it so that it’s a crime to report them! It’s a crime to identify them as Israeli crimes. You know, I don’t write anything about jewish crimes, I’m writing about a crime that was committed by very evil people, who may happen to be Israeli nationals, like Netanyahu, or Michael Chertoff, but that’s as far as it goes.

Solving a Crime Means Going where the Evidence Leads

You know, when you investigate a crime, … the reason why I call my book “Solving 9/11”, is, because 9/11, I could see from the been to Austin twice. He’s been invited both times, and he has never responded.

Green: He’s completely abandoned 9/11 truth. He doesn’t talk about it anymore at all!

What About the Bible, and the “Synagogue of Satan”?

What do you think about, like the Bible, and talking about the “Synagogue of Satan”?

Bollyn: Oh well, that’s from book of Revelation. Yeah they talk about these imposters in the jewish faith who, you know, are not jews, but are the “Synagogue of Satan”. And, you know, Christ said the same thing when he talked about the Pharisees, and the Scribes, and said they were the “spawn of Satan”. You know, it’s very, very harsh words, but there’s a lot of truth in that. Because when you understand that the Talmud, the Rabbinical interpretation of the Torah, stands the Torah on it’s head, and negates the teachings of the Moses, Mosaic law, you know, that you’re dealing with the corruption of the religion! The corruption of the scripture!

As we see with the Scofield Bible for Christians. It’s like, when people change the scripture to suit their agenda, that’s pretty, it can be very evil.

And when they say that in the end times — I hope we’re not in the end times! But there are times of great deception and there will be false prophets, etc. We see this around us all the time, this is reality today. We live in a very, a very strange and uncomfortable reality where this is primarily, this is a religious, this is a spiritual war! But any war between truth and falsehood, and light and dark, is a spiritual battle. And when your country and your fellow citizens are so deceived, when your nation is deceived, that is a very evil thing!

And when you consider the evilness of 9/11, then the evilness of the deception, is just as bad as the crime of mass murder. So it’s a spiritual battle.

Your Letter to the Pope, Did He Respond?

Green: Speaking of spiritual battle, you wrote a letter to the Pope about 9/11 truth, and did they respond to that at all?

Bollyn: No! No, I wrote an open letter to the Pope and I sent him a hard copy of the letter. And I thought that the head of the Catholic Church should speak out about the deception that we’ve been under about 9/11! Because this deception has been used to take the nation, and the world, to war against another religion, against another faith, against Islam!

And so this is a very, very big thing! And it requires leadership from our religious leaders to quell the fire! To explain to people, to the faithful, that we’ve been deceived, and that these wars are not justified! That’s not a hard thing to do, but apparently there’s no interest in the religious community, in the academic community, or in our political establishment, to do any of that.

That gives you an idea of how deeply entrenched this deception is!

What is Hindering People from Speaking Out?

Green: It’s so easy for you and me, and so many people we know, to see the deception and want to be passionate and speak out about it. What do you think is hindering so many other people, blocking them from doing it?

Bollyn: Well, it’s a hard thing to do! I mean, just intellectually grappling with 9/11 truth and embracing it, means that you have to come to the conclusion that your government has been lying to you for 16 years! In the greatest democracy in the world? And that our media is hardly free, but our media is complicit in the 9/11 cover-up! These are very hard pills to swallow for an American. We grew up thinking that we live in a free country, and that we have a free media, and that the truth prevails!

And to see that none of that is true, and that we’re living in a very strange place where the government, the media, the institutions, that we believe in, can no longer be trusted. That shows that we’re on the verge of something new! We’re on the cusp of a new beginning! But it also means that it’s very hard for the average person to cope with, to accept!

Green: I hear the debunkers all the time say that:

“It’s more comforting for 9/11 conspiracy theorists to think that there’s a conspiracy behind everything, and that world view is more comforting to us.”

What do you say to that? Are you more comforted to know that 9/11 was it was an inside job, or would you wish, would it be better if you believed the official story?

Bollyn: Well, the official story is a conspiracy theory as well! So let’s put that to rest. It’s like what the government has said has never been proven, regarding Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I’m a investigator, an investigative journalist who has found, you know, leads and conclusions as to who’s behind the 9/11 crime.

It’s not a theory! It’s an investigation!

And it’s my attempt to solve the crime that changed our country.

But there’s nothing comfortable about, … There can be no comfort at all in believing a false narrative which we’ve been given. I think that it’s much more comforting to know the truth! To understand who is really behind 9/11! To understand who’s behind the “War on Terror”, because then you’ll realize that things aren’t nearly as bad as they make them out to be.

You know, we are not on the verge of a religious war with Islam. Islam is not trying to break down the doors and to destroy us as a civilization, or a nation. This has all been, this is all fear that’s been imposed on us.

And so, to be in deception, to be in fear, to be deceived, is a much worse place to be, than to have some truth. The truth is, like it says in the Bible:

“The truth will set you free!”

But to be deceived and to accept the deception, knowing that it’s a deception, is a very unenviable place to be.

Green: I got three more questions. Two of them are, … I’m just gonna kind of lead you into two of the things. These are two of the things from your book that were new to me, that I thought were very powerful pieces of information.

Shimon Perez Wanting to Frighten the West into Supporting Israel’s Aims

Number one is Shimon Perez and Moshe Shalit. There’s a quote in there about that Perez wants to frighten the West into supporting Israel’s aims! That is so incriminating! And to follow your whole thesis of what happened in the 70s, and right in the 80s, …

Bollyn: Right.

Green: Can you, …?

Bollyn: Yeah that was a quote by the Prime Minister of Israel at the time, Moshe Sharett. And Shimon Peres had had been one of the masterminds of a terrorist operation in Egypt against American and British targets, libraries, cultural institutions, in which they had put nitroglycerin bombs into these places. You know, in order to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, and to drive a wedge between the United States, and Britain, and the Egyptian government at the time.

Shimon Peres was one of the masterminds, along with Pinhas Lavon and Moshe Dayan. And when the Prime Minister discovered this, he wrote in his journal what he said about about Shimon Peres wanting to frighten the West, just like Pinhas Lavon.

So this is in the early 1950s. So Israel was carrying out false flag terror operations in Egypt, in the early 1950s, in order to drive a wedge between the United States and the leading Arab country, Egypt. They haven’t changed that, you know, and Shimon Peres was the President and a high-ranking Israeli politician when 9/11 happened.

I think when 9/11 happened he was actually Foreign Minister. But in any case, that is his modus operandi, that’s how he has always functioned. That’s been the Israeli method ever since the creation of the State of Israel, to scare the West into supporting Israel’s aims. And that’s where we are today!

That’s where all this terrorism, fear of terrorism, fear of Islam, comes at us from the media, and the zionists. Because they want us to be afraid, and paralyzed, so that we will be willing to wage war against the Islamic world, and the Arab states, that they target.

Green: Yeah. Watch any clip of Netanyahu at the United Nations, or addressing Congress, and that’s all he talks about, is the fear of Iran, and the fear of al-Qaeda, the fear of Iraq, and how we need to act, because they’re all building bombs to kill us!

Bollyn: Right! Because the whole “War on Terror” construct only works if the public is afraid. And it’s like, that’s the point of my work, is to undeceive people, and to show them that this terrible monster that’s in the darkness, isn’t really there at all! It’s all an artificial construct! And when people realize that it’s like a Wizard of Oz play, it’s like somebody, you know, trying to scare you by waving something scary in front of your face. It’s not real! The reality is much less scary than the deception!

And that’s why my book “Solving 9/11”, I have the light coming over, because in the darkness, when people are in the darkness, you know, their fears manifest and scare them out of their wits! But when you’re dealing with reality, you know, it’s something that’s much easier for a person to cope with.

Who Were the Top Three People Involved in Planning 9/11?

Green: Can you name me like the top three people you think we’re involved with planning 9/11?

Bollyn: Well, the people at the top who planned 9/11, these would be people in Israeli military intelligence, whose names would not mean much to anybody. But at a political level, I would say that it would be Shimon Peres. I would think Benjamin Netanyahu, because he’s been the promoter of the “War on Terror” agenda since 1979. I would think Shaul Eisenberg, Mr. Big in China for the Israeli Mossad. I think Ehud Barak, not a Likudnik, but I think Ehud Barak played a key role. And I would say also Areil Sharon.

And then going back one generation, men who were still alive when 9/11 happened, or just recently deceased. Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir. These would be the political players that, you know, except for Shaul Eisenberg, he’s not very well known, but the rest of them are people who Americans understand who these people were.

You know, these people were terrorists, absolute terrorists! They always use terrorism!

Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir, they murdered the UN envoy to Palestine, Folke Bernadotte in 1948! They bombed the King David hotel in 1946! They massacred Palestinians in Deir Yassin and other villages. I mean, these are bonafide real terrorist leaders! In fact, Menachem Begin took the mantle of being the father of terrorism in the whole world!

So, when terrorism then happens, when their agenda goes through and their people commit terrorism, what’s the problem? Yeah! Why is it anti-semitic?

You know, I lived in Israel when Menachem Begin came to power. And it was a very sad day for people from the Labour Party, because they realized that the terrorists had taken power!

Menachem Begin, the Father of Terrorism

Green: There’s a quote in your book about, I think, it’s Ben Gurion, they say he’s the “king of terrorism”! And he goes “the king of terrorism in the world!” He corrected him, like they brag about their terrorism! It’s no secret, right?

Bollyn: Yeah!

Green: Of the history of terrorism, of the Mossad and the Irgun.

Bollyn: Yeah. That was Menachem Begin who said that, when he was asked. And he said:

“What is it like to be the father of terrorism in Middle East?”

And he said:

“In the Middle East?”

He said:

“In all the world!”

So, that’s the reason why zionist history is not taught in American schools! Because if American universities taught the history of zionism, you would know! You would understand the evilness, and the terrorist nature, of the zionist project! Because it, the State of Israel, was born in terrorism, and has survived with terrorism ever since!

Green: You touch in your book, the last chapter, a Muslim guy was writing it, right? Who wrote the last chapter?

Bollyn: It was the Nation of Islam research group.

Green: Research group. They talked about the significance of your work in history. And I’d like to ask you how often do you think about your place in history, and what will people write about you hundreds of years from now, if the truth is known about 9/11?

Bollyn: Well I don’t know. I don’t think about that, that often. It’s been 16 years I’ve been working on this, and it’s been a very, a very big effort, you know, it took a lot of time, and a lot of energy. And it’s cost, it’s had a lot of costs for me and my family.

So, I just hope that people will waken up and realize what’s happened to this country. And if my work contributes to that, to that awakening, if my work contributes to shortening the “War on Terror” by one day, if my work contributes to the prosecution and indictment of the people who carried out 9/11, that will be the best reward!

Green: A Pulitzer for a hundred years! So, there’s very bad guys who you’re exposing here. You’ve literally solved, you’ve uncovered the motive, the people behind it. Do you fear for your life when you go out in public and people are protesting? There very well could be somebody violent that wants to shut you up for exposing these crimes.

Bollyn: Yeah. Well I’m cautious and everything like that. I try to be as careful as possible. But to think that this, that the criminal network behind 9/11 is all powerful and able to reach anywhere, … yeah, they are criminal network, but they’re men like you and I, and their life goes on. Many of them have died. Many of them have moved on to other things. They have accomplished, they have gotten what they wanted!

They got the “War on Terror”! They got it all! The “War on Terror” in spades! They’ve got terrorism going on in Europe, and America! They’ve got the wars going on in half a dozen countries! They’ve destroyed Syria! They’ve destroyed Iraq! They’ve destroyed Afghanistan! They’ve destroyed Libya! They got what they wanted!

So, for me to be explaining, my side of this and explaining what the war on terrorism is all about, I guess they have nothing, no problem, with that. It’s like they’ve achieved their goal. They’ve achieved billions and billions of dollars. They’ve disrupted the Middle East! They’re redrawing the map of the Middle East! You know, nothing has stopped them!

And they’re destroying this country! That’s really important!

And anybody who has any patriotic feeling for the United States of America, should engage in 9/11 truth and demand an end of the “War on Terror”! And demand accountability from the people in the media and the government who have covered up this crime for 16 years. It’s just outrageous!

Green: It is outrageous! I agree. Every 9/11 truther needs to read these books. If you haven’t you’re completely uninformed! These are the best books about 9/11. I’ve read both of them several times. “Solving 9/11 the Deception that Changed the World” and the “War on Terror — the Plot to Rule the Middle East”. The “War on Terror” and “9/11” go hand in hand. They’re essentially the same crime.

Bollyn: Yeah.

Green: Chris has sacrificed a lot for this information. He’s a man of courage and integrity! I appreciate you so much for sitting down and taking the time with me.

Bollyn: Thank you very much.

Green: Thank you. And everybody needs to read these books and share the information with everybody you know. Any last words Chris?

Bollyn: Well thank you very much, and I couldn’t agree more on the need to understand that we’ve been deceived about 9/11. And we’ve been deceived for a reason. And the reason is to take us into this long open-ended criminal war in the Middle East, and elsewhere. And in order to end the deception, we need to increase awareness. And the more people who become aware of 9/11, and the lies of 9/11, will understand the lies of the “War on Terror”. That we’ve been deceived into war.

The war agenda will destroy this nation! It will impoverish this nation! It will destroy this nation! And it’s incumbent, it’s imperative that any patriotic American do their utmost to expose the deception and end the war!

Thank you very much.

Green: Thank you.

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The War on Terror - conversation with Christopher Bollyn

G&B: I’m Bonnie Faulkner. Today on Guns and Butter, Christopher Bollyn. Today’s show: “The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East”.

Christopher Bollyn is an independent researcher, investigative journalist, and author. He spent three years traveling extensively throughout Europe and the Middle East. He studied Egyptian, Biblical Hebrew, and Norwegian, at the University of Oslo. He is a graduate of the University of California in history, with an emphasis on Israel-Palestine.

Along with research and writing, he has worked as an editor and translator. His travels and studies of German, Spanish, Norwegian, Swedish, Hebrew, and Arabic languages, have helped him analyze international politics and event.

He is the author of “Solving 9/11 — The Deception That Changed the World”, “Solving 9/11 — The Articles”, and “The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East”. His newest book, out on September 11th, 2019, is “Solving 9/11 — The Articles Vol II

Christopher Bollyn, welcome!

Bollyn: Thank you. It’s nice to be with you.

G&B: You begin your book “The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East” with a quote from then President George White Bush, one week after the attacks of September 11th. Quote:

“This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take a while.”

Unquote. At the same time Congress passed the “Authorization to Use Military Force”. What does this authorization to use military force authorize the President to do?

Bollyn: Well it’s an open-ended funding and authorization. Which allows the President to basically wage war against anybody he deems to have been involved in the terror attacks of 9/11, or to be harboring anybody who was involved in the terrorist attacks of 9/11. So it provides the money, and the political authorization, to wage war based on the President’s decision that that entity was involved in September 11.

G&B: And this authorization to use military force is not just against other countries, but organizations, and individuals, right?

Bollyn: Right. Anybody that he sees to have been in some way involved in the terror attacks of 9/11. And that could be also a country like Afghanistan, who they said was harboring the Al-Qaeda group that they said did 9/11. But this authorization has been abused since 2001, and under the “War on Terror”, under the guise of fighting the “War on Terror”, under that authorization, they’ve waged war in dozens of countries.

G&B: Now since the Constitution gives the right of declaring war, does this authorization take away that right from Congress? I mean, it basically hands it over to the President. It makes it his decision, isn’t that right?

Bollyn: Right. Yeah, it’s like an abdication of their responsibilities. That they have basically given him a rubber stamp that he can use to wage war wherever he sees fit. It’s his decision, and his decision alone, as to where he wants to wage war.

G&B: What is the significance of the US President stating that the terror attacks of 9/11 were, quote:

“An act of war.”?

Bollyn: Well that’s very important. They made that declaration already on the first day, on September 11th. That’s important, because it means that as an “act of war”, that the government will respond to it accordingly, using military force. And wage war against the people that they said did this, that committed this terrorist attack. And so the attack on the Pentagon was the one thing that allowed them to make that determination, because the Pentagon is, of course, an American military fortress. So, when you have a military attack on a military fortress it is a military, an act of war.

And so using that that logic it precluded the need for there to be any criminal investigation to determine who was really behind 9/11. So, it gave them an easy way out for those people who wanted to wage war in the first place!

G&B: Right. The ability to wage a war, because of these attacks, then negated the necessity to hold a criminal investigation, isn’t that what you’re saying?

Bollyn: Right! And then the authorization to use military force was passed a couple days after 9/11. So, based on that, George Bush was able to take the country to war less than a month after 9/11 happened, in Afghanistan, because everything was basically allowed. The authorization, the funding, and the logic.

G&B: You point out that the US has conducted major military operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Syria, and the Philippines. Has any evidence been presented that any of these countries were involved in the terror attacks of September 11th?

Bollyn: No! Not even has evidence been presented to indict Osama bin Laden, for example. I mean, it’s a famous story about the FBI did not put Osama bin Laden on the most-wanted list for his involvement in 9/11. [He was listed wanted for other alleged crimes] Because they didn’t have evidence for that.

So the entire “War on Terror” is a war that is being fought under false premises. And the authorization to use military force is being abused! And they’ve spent something like seven trillion dollars on this war! This “War on Terror” that began in October 2001, has now gone on for over 18 years. And it’s the longest and most expensive war in US history.

G&B: General Wesley Clark in a presentation to the San Francisco Commonwealth Club, in 2007, said that there was a coup on 9/11, in the United States, “a policy coup”. What did General Clark mean by “a policy coup”?

Bollyn: Well, he said that:

“Some hard-nosed people took over the direction of American foreign policy and never bothered to inform the rest of us.”

And he pointed out that there were, in this memo that he had discovered, he had learned about when he went to the Pentagon a week, or so after 9/11, there were seven countries on this memo that the United States military was prepared to overthrow in the next five years. And those countries were Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off with Iran.

And that’s basically been the to-do list for the “War on Terror”. And yeah, that’s what they’ve done. And he discovered, he heard this memo and he was shocked that, … He had been the former chief of military in Europe during the Afghanistan war. He had just finished his service in Europe, and he knows policy. He knows what he’s talking about. He was running for President at the time. And he knows that this was a “policy coup” where what they call the “neo-cons”, the zionist neocons, people like Wolfowitz, had had dictated this policy. And this was being followed by the Pentagon.

G&B: How would you describe the Israeli “Yinon Plan” for the Middle East? Authored by Oded Yinon and translated in English by Israel Shahak. I believe this was written in 1982.

Bollyn: Right. It was published in 1982. Well in 1982, Oded Yinon — and he’s a strategist for the Likud Party — he was writing and serving under Ariel Sharon. He wrote this strategy for Israel in the 1980s. And it called for Israel to basically a wage war and to overthrow the Arab countries all across the region! All the Arab countries! And to break them up into ethnic statelets. Into, you know, along ethnic lines. It’s often called “balkanization”, and it resembles what was done to Yugoslavia.

So you take a large, secular, socialist, economy, if you will, and you break it up into small warring factions that don’t get along with each other. And this is exactly, … The Yinon Plan called for, on the Eastern Front, doing this first to Iraq and then Syria. Saying that Iraq was the main enemy, the largest, most formidable, enemy of Israel.

And the thing is that this is exactly what’s happened under the United States occupation of both Iraq and Syria.

And I saw in the news, just today, that Michael Pence is visiting Iraq, the Kurdish section of Iraq. So Iraq has been broken up into a Sunni section, a Shiite section, and a Kurdish section, in the north. And the same sort of thing is being done to Syria. And these were the first two targets for the Israeli plan known as the Yinon Plan. It was published in Hebrew, 1982

G&B: What are some of the drastic political and social changes that have been imposed on America and the world as a result of the 9/11 deception?

Bollyn: Well, it fundamentally changed the relationship between the citizen and the state. As you can see like in the United States when you go flying, traveling, you’re treated as a suspect, a terrorism suspect, even though you’re just a member of the traveling public. This can be on the trains, this could be on the planes. The way we’re treated when we go in through the security check.

And also there’s been a huge increase in the militarization of the police forces in America. This is partly due to the whole idea of preparing for, you know, the same sort of insurrection in the United States, as they have faced in Afghanistan and in Iraq. And also the fact that a lot of people that served in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the wars, have come back from the wars and gotten employed as police officers. So you have this whole militarization of America, the police. You see if everywhere you go. And that’s part of the, that’s the legacy of the “War on Terror”.

G&B: What exactly has the “War on Terror” brought us in terms of the rules of war, including torture. Now that never used to be allowed!

Bollyn: Right, right! They don’t call it “torture”, they call it “enhanced interrogation”. But yes, the rules have all been rewritten. So that we now have torture, as you say, we had big camps, you know, in Iraq, like Camp Bucca where people were tortured and abused systematically. And this was done, because they said that:

“There was a need to know what these people were up to.”

And so based on that, and the whole fear that they had imposed on the American public, people went along with it. They went along with this, thinking that these people that had done 9/11 were so evil, that anything would be, anything that could stop them, anything could hinder their evil plans, would be allowed. And like I said, America’s just become a very much a pro-war “anything goes” nation, after 9/11

G&B: How was the foe in the “War on Terror” created?

Bollyn: Well, that’s a very good question! You see the “War on Terror” is a very old doctrine. An Israeli doctrine, going back at least to the late 70s, when Menachem Begin — the arch terrorist of Israel history — when he became prime minister, he became prime minister in 70, 74, I think. His party came to leadership in 77. He was the Prime Minister then in 77.

Two years later he called a conference on “international terrorism” in Jerusalem, which was attended by something like 700 dignitaries from around the world. Owners of media, President George Bush’s father, George Herbert Walker Bush, who was running for President at a time. And they rolled out this doctrine in a three-day propaganda offensive in Jerusalem, called “The Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism”. In which they said that:

“The new enemy of the West was terrorism, international terrorism.”

At the time they blamed it all on Russia. That Russia was behind this terrorism. And they said that what has to happen is that the Western militaries have to engage, you know, the terrorists in the Middle East. And those nations that are protecting them.

And so this was the doctrine. And this was the “War on Terror” doctrine, explained and laid out as the “new doctrine” for the West to follow. And what happened though, is that it didn’t go into effect immediately, because it required, of course, something like 9/11 to make the United States, you know, move it’s military operationally into the Middle East. So 9/11 was basically the spark plug, or the kick-start, that brought this “War on Terror” from 1979 into reality, into operation.

G&B: Of course, this “Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism” that took place in 1979, and was arranged by then Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin, was extremely important and seminal in this whole “War on Terror”. And as you’ve mentioned, George HW Bush was in attendance. And he was running for President then. On the same subject, what is the “Jonathan Institute” and what was its purpose?

Bollyn: Right. Well the entity that hosted the conference was the Jonathan Institute. Jonathan is the first name of Jonathan Netanyahu. This is Benjamin Netanyahu’s older brother, who reportedly died, was killed, in the Israeli operation in Entebbe, Uganda, when there was a hijack planes have been taken there. And the Israeli covert force known as “Sayeret Matkal” went in and were able to release the hostages. But in the process of this rescue operation, Jonathan Netanyahu was killed.

So they named Institute after him. And so Menachem Begin was the organizer of the conference, he was the prime minister at the time. He was involved in Lebanon, you know, attacking Lebanon at the same time. And Benjamin Netanyahu, and his father, Benzion Netanyahu, were the conference hosts, if you will. They were the ones that organized it and got it arranged at their Institute. This isn’t an Institute that has any sort of address, physical address. It’s just an Institute. And it’s whole purpose was to promote the idea of the “War on Terror”.

G&B: You mentioned this operation at Entebbe, in Uganda. Wasn’t that a false flag? I mean, was that an actual hijacking, or was that staged?

Bollyn: Well, that’s a good question, you know. I don’t have enough information about the Entebbe operation, or, you know, other operations from that time period. People say the same thing about the Munich Massacre from the Olympics in 1972, it was, I think.

You know, and looking back today with our understanding of how Israeli false flag operations work, there’s a lot of question marks about, you know, these earlier operations. If they were staged, or, … But the thing is, that it’s very likely, and it’s not unreasonable that people think like that, because Israel has been doing false flag operations for a long time! They’ve been doing false flag operations since they became a state, and even before.

But the first false flag operation that that I know of the Israel did was in 1952, or 53. I think it’s called the Lavon Affair. And it was done in Egypt. And it was Israelis and some Egyptian jews, a cell, who were planting nitroglycerin bombs in British and American buildings, and libraries, and cultural centers, and theaters, and things like that.

And that was an operation that was discovered to be an Israeli false flag operation. It was meant to be blamed on the Islamic Brotherhood. But what happened is that the Egyptian police captured some of the agents, and they confessed.

G&B: In the same year as the Jerusalem Conference, veteran Israeli intelligence chief, Isser Harel, made a prediction. What was his prediction?

Bollyn: Yes, Isser Harel was the founder of the Israeli Mossad. He’s like the first real chief of the Mossad, and former head of the Shin Bet, which is Israel’s internal intelligence, like the FBI. And he said, he made a prediction to an American zionist, he predicted that Arabs would attack the tallest building in New York City. And that they would do this, because this is a symbol, you know, American fertility.

And yeah, that they would attack the tallest building in New York City. And he made that prediction in 1979.

And it was only reported after 9/11. It was reported by a guy named Michael Evans from Texas. He’s a jewish guy, who has a Christian evangelical operation called, “Jerusalem Prayers”, or something like that. But what he does is, he’s one of these Christian zionists who’s very pro-zionist. And he was very close with people like Menachem Begin, and Isser Harel.

And so at the same time that they had this conference Isser Harel was putting into his mind, into mister Michael Evans mind, the idea that, … Well, it’s called “The Jerusalem Prayer Team”, that’s what it’s called. That Arabs were targetting the United States of America, and they would target the tallest building in New York City.

I call this “ideation”. This is putting hints out there, putting the idea out there, through people like the evangelist Minister. They did the same thing in movie form, television shows. They put the idea out there that Arabs are targetting the tallest buildings in New York City. So when it happens, the public is a short way for them to understand that this is simply reality, imitating art! You know, that this has been predicted, and it’s understood. And:

“Well, that’s what happened! Didn’t you see the movie?”

G&B: Yes! Could you talk about Mossad operative, Arnon Milchan, and the Hollywood films he’s produced?

Bollyn: Arnon Milchan is right in the middle of this current case with Benjamin Netanyahu. Because he’s the Hollywood producer who was also a senior Israeli agent. He was an agent in an operation called “Lakam”, LAKAM. [LAKAM is an acronym for Bureau of Scientific Relations, an Israeli intelligence agency that collected scientific and technical intelligence abroad.] And that is Israel’s top secret operation to get components for their nuclear program from the United States. And this guy was their number one agent.

And he was at the same time he was a Hollywood film producer. He made “Pretty Woman”, “JFK”, “Brazil”, “Fight Club”, you know, lots of movies he’s made.

And in his movies there’s often ideation of the 9/11 attacks. For example, there’s a movie he made called, … The first movie ever made was called “The Medusa Touch” in 1978. In which a passenger aircraft is flown into the Pan Am building. And that’s the climactic scene of the movie, I think. It’s one year before the conference [Jerusalem Conference], and it’s very telling.

When you understand that, when you see that he, Arnon Milchan, was Israel’s top Israeli agent! He’s close friends with Ezra Weitzman, the Defense Minister of Israel at the time. He’s very close friends of Shimon Peres. Shimon Peres is the guy who brought him in. Shimon Peres is of course, the Godfather of the whole Israeli arsenal, nuclear arsenal. And this man, Arnon Milchan, his operation was to get what they needed for the nuclear arsenal.

And he was caught red-handed! His operation was caught red-handed smuggling nuclear triggers, something like 800 of them, from the United States to Israel! And at that time his employee who was involved in this operation, was Benjamin Netanyahu.

Now, in the trial with Benjamin Netanyahu, the charges that are placed against Netanyahu, part of it is, because he was receiving bribes, or gifts, very expensive gifts from Arnon Milchan.

G&B: Now, what about the television pilot, “The Lone Gunman” that you write about in your book, was co-produced by Arnon Milchan and Rupert Murdoch.

Bollyn: Yeah, well they had a television company together. They have, or they had, “Regency Productions”, I think it’s called. And they’re very close as well. Murdoch is very close to Arnon Milchan. Milchan was his landlord, or vice versa, but in any case they’re business partners as well. They’re co-owners of this TV production company.

And in 2000, Murdoch’s company “New Regency” films I think it was called, they made this production called “The Lone Gunman”, in which something like the 9/11 attack, very similar, happens in the film. It’s only a half an hour film — it’s made for TV — in which a passenger aircraft is hijacked remotely using a kind of more sophisticated chip called “Octium chip”. And the plane is hijacked using the override, so that the pilots don’t even know it, because the plane is being flown on autopilot. And what happens is that the plane is flown, is being flown directly into the World Trade Center. And at the last minute the pilots are able to regain control and just narrowly miss avoid hitting the World Trade Center.

But this movie came out, and was aired on Fox TV, in March of 2001. Six months before 9/11 happened.

And this is the thing what we see with Milchan, and Milchan-Murdoch films, is that the idea, the “ideation” of 9/11 is shown time, after time, after time. And the idea of the “War on Terror” is another part of his films.

In the movie Brazil, the futuristic film Brazil, it’s a state where, like the United States is today, where the state is waging a constant war against terrorism. And in doing so, it’s, you know, it’s imposing itself a great deal on its own people.

G&B: Yes, in the film Brazil, there are terrorist attacks and bombings just randomly! I remember a scene where some people are having an elegant dinner, and all of a sudden a bomb blows out the wall!

Bollyn: Mm hmm.

G&B: But it’s just routine and the waiters rush in, and put up a screen between the diners and the blown out wall! And it’s all presented as if it’s just a day in the life!

Bollyn: Yeah. And if you remember that scene in the restaurant where the women are talking about the operations and the surgeries they can get, and the bomb goes off. Just before the bomb goes off, the woman, one of the young girls says, “Salt?”, and she raises a jar of salt to offer salt, and then the bomb goes off! That’s very interesting.

And then, as soon as the bomb goes off, the band brushes themselves off, and starts playing. And what song do they start playing? The Hava Nagila, the zionist national anthem! Hava Nagila!

G&B: Oh my god, I forgot about that detail!

Bollyn: Whose idea was that! And that’s just like Arnon Milchan making a joke out of the whole thing, you know. This movie was made in 1985, or 86, and it’s like it’s a very, very interesting choice of music.

G&B: Yeah, that’s very chilling! You’ve mentioned how Arnon Milchan was involved in the smuggling of nuclear triggers out of the United States to Israel. Could you talk about the theft of nuclear material and uranium from the United States by Israeli operatives? Who were they? And what was the timeframe in which these thefts were taking place?

Bollyn: Well, there was an operation, I think it was in the 70s, or early 80s, from Apollo Pennsylvania in which Isser Harel, his men, his main men, were then Zvi Malkin and Shalom [Avraham] Bendor and a very key player in this is a man named Rafi Eitan.

Rafi Eitan, this man, was the head of the LAKAM program at the time. He was the head of the operation to get the components for nuclear materials. And he sent these men, Shalom Bandor and Zvi Malkin. And Rafi Eitan himself was a member of this group. They went to Apollo Pennsylvania and arranged with this man who owned this company, New Mec, I think it’s called. The man’s name was Ben Shapiro. And he was American jew who was willing to help.

And what happened is that after they visited the plant Apollo, and met with Mr Shapiro, the plutonium was then sent in special cartons to Israel by LA freighters. And this was the smuggling of plutonium to Israel for their nuclear weapons.

And it’s interesting that this is discussed in the book about Robert Maxwell, “Israel’s Superspy” [Robert Maxwell, Israel’s Superspy (2003) ] because, you know, Rafi Eitan played a big role in all of this stuff. And it also involved the theft of the PROMIS software. [Prosecutors Management Information System] That came a little bit later. That came in the 80s. But when Rafi Eitan was able to steal the PROMIS software — this is the prosecutors information management system — it allowed them to adapt the software for spying and sell to countries all around the world. Which gave the super user — the Israelis — access to everything that was going on in the networks that had bought the software.

G&B: Right. And you mentioned Robert Maxwell in connection to this stolen PROMIS software. And I believe in that book, isn’t he’s selling this software to other countries?

Bollyn: Yeah! They used Maxwell as their main sales agent. And he sold it, you know, first places like Zimbabwe, and South Africa, and then to Jordan, and countries in the Middle East. And it got everywhere! It got to banks, and Swiss banks. And then they, this was the PROMIS, this was the modified PROMIS software.

So they got the PROMIS software from the Department of Justice. And he was — Rafi Eitan — was travelling in the United States under an alias. I think was named David Orr, or something like that. Dr. David Orr. So, he was using the identity of an Israeli man — a real doctor in Jerusalem — and travelling under his name.

And they got this software, and then they he adapted it. He brought it back to Israel and they adapted it for spying. So they put a microchip in there and they moved things around, so that this became an enterprise spyware. And this was in the 80s, this is like in 1984.

And then 83, 84, and then they kept developing this, the capacity of, the capabilities of the software into something called “pTech”. And pTech was the software that was running on all the American military computers and the federal computers on 9/11. And this was again, the spy software that was developed by Israel. And that was being used to monitor what happened at the FAA on 9/11. And it’s part of, it’s a very important aspect of the computer crime with 9/11.

G&B: Right. And you pointed out to me something I hadn’t thought of but that “pTech” probably is a shortened form of PROMIS technology, right?

Bollyn: Right. It stands to reason, because it’s the same sort of software. It’s enterprise software that gives you not only access to everything that’s going on in the network in real time, but it gives you surveillance, and the ability to intervene, to do something, to change something.

And this would explain, for example, why the American military was unable to respond effectively to the hijackings on 9/11, because planes were diverted, you know, communications were missed. So the attacks went on, unhindered.

G&B: And I think we might also mention, with regard to Robert Maxwell, that he is, of course, the father of Ghilane Maxwell, who’s been in the news lately, with regard to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, right?

Bollyn: Right, right.! And in the Epstein scandal you see that one of the most conspicuous Israelis involved in that was Ehud Barak — the former head of Israeli military intelligence — was seen photographed coming in and out of the townhouse of Jeffrey Epstein. And he would stay at Jeffrey Epstein’s house, one of his houses, when he was in town.

So yeah, it’s an Israeli operation. You know, the Epstein thing was an Israeli operation. And it was used to control people of influence, politicians, and what-have-you. And if you look at the list of people who flew on the “Lolita Express”, or who stayed on Jeffrey Epstein’s island, it’s all the big shots. It’s all the top brass.

G&B: You write that when we examine the historical roots of the 9/11 atrocity and the “War on Terror”, we find more indications that 9/11 and the “War on Terror” both originate from the same source. What are some of the key events, beginning in 1977, that point to a common origin for both 9/11 and the “War on Terror”? Now, I know you’ve already mentioned a few of them, but what event occurred in 1977?

Bollyn: Well that’s when the Likud Party came to power. As I said, that’s when Menachem Begin came to power. And Menachem Begin is a unabashed, notorious, terrorist. He was involved in the bombing of the King David Hotel, back in 1946. He was involved in the Deir Yassin massacre. You know, when they mastered an entire village near Jerusalem, to put the fear into the Palestinians.

So when this man came to power, … You know, as Dr. Einstein wrote in 1948, Einstein warned the American jews and the American community, that if Menachem Begin ever comes to power, if his party ever comes to power — it was known as “Herut” at that time — these are terrorists and they will do terrible things!

And, you know, unfortunately the warnings of Albert Einstein were not heeded. But anybody who’s followed Israeli politics over the decades knows that the likes of Ariel Sharon, and Yitzhak Shamir, and Menachem Begin, these are people who came to power using terrorism! Terrorism is their modus operandi! So that when they came to power politically, in 1977, it would be no surprise, should be no surprise, that they immediately engaged in wars of aggression against Lebanon, for example. And they immediately began using terrorism.

There’s a book that came out “Rise and Kill First”, came out last year. And it’s written by an Israeli guy. It’s a discussion of, it’s a description of all of the, not all, but a lot of the Israeli assassinations over the years. And in this book they talk about, in 1979 Israeli military intelligence created a terrorist network in Lebanon, in which the Israelis themselves were putting car bombs, and donkey bombs, and truck bombs, which operated for four years! For four years, until 1983. And causing chaos and wars in Lebanon between various factions.

And, of course, remember 1983, what happened to the American barracks in Beirut. It was blown up by a truck bomb that the Mossad knew all about. So that was the beginning of the “War on Terror”.

And as I said, that they had the conference in 1979, in which they laid out the doctrine that the West should engage, you know, Islamic terrorism across the region, because it’s a struggle of the West.

And then in 1982, again, the Oded Yinon Plan came out, which called for the balkanization of all the Arab states. Well, how is little Israel go to balkanize all the states? Well, in order to do that they obviously had to get the Western militaries in there to do the hard lifting that required, they needed it to be done, in places like Iraq and Syria. That’s exactly what’s happened!

And so then, fast forward to, like, 9/11 happened. And that was as I said, the kick-start for the whole “War on Terror”! That Bibi Netanyahu had been pushing for decades!

If you remember, in the 80s Netanyahu came out with — after the first conference in Jerusalem — he came out with books about it. He came out with books in which he reprinted the speeches that were given, or the articles that were written about it.

And he promoted this “War on Terror”. And he wrote books like “Fighting Terrorism” and “How the West Can Win” [Terrorism: How the West Can Win]. And so he was pushing this, like, uphill all the way! And when I read those books about, you know how was this gonna happen, how does it come to fruition? Well 9/11 is how it happened!

So when 9/11 happened, they were able to kick-start the “War on Terror” that he’d been pushing for so long. So when he was asked by the New York Times on 9/11:

“What does this mean? What does what happened today mean for Israeli-American relations?”

And he said:

“It’s very good!”

He blurted it out!:

“It’s very good!”

He said [correcting himself]:

“Well, it’s not very good, but it’ll bring sympathy for Israeli position.”

Or something like that. So it’s like, you know, he couldn’t hold himself back! And then, all the interpretation that we got about the events of 9/11 came through, from him, and Ehud Barak.

Ehud Barack was in the BBC television studio in London shortly after the towers were struck. And he was calling for, … He blamed Osama bin Laden! He said that:

“Now is the time to start a concrete operational ‘War on Terror’.”

And that’s exactly what we got! And then as I said, then there was the memo in the Pentagon that was circulating at the highest levels, calling for the overthrow of seven countries in five years. And they took a little bit longer than five years, but that’s exactly what we’ve done. And now, of course, in the cross-hairs is Iran.

G&B: You address the question of which came first, the terror attacks of 9/11, or the “War on Terror”. How would you answer this question?

Bollyn: Which came first, 9/11, or the “War on Terror”?

G&B: Yes.

Bollyn: Yeah, well as I said, before 9/11 happened on September 11th 2001. But the “War on Terror” doctrine preceded it by, what, 22 years at least. So, it’s like, they laid out that the whole idea of the “War on Terror”. They laid out the logic, they laid out the propaganda for it, before they achieved it. And in order to achieve it they had to get, of course, the United States military into the region. So that’s what 9/11 was all about.

And as you saw, it was all done like on a greased slide. They had the authorization to use military force, they had declared it an “act of war”, they had the Pentagon attack. So it was a foregone conclusion that the United States military would respond. And it was all prepared in advance! It was all very carefully laid out, so that it was a given, it was a given, that after 9/11, United States would go into the Middle East and start waging war.

And it started in Afghanistan and then they pushed for Iraq. And this is all part of the doctrine of the “Project for a New American Century”. That paper that came out one year before 9/11, in which they called for a complete change in the American military policy and foreign policy. They should become the policemen of the world, that the United States should should occupy Iraq — whether Saddam Hussein is on the throne, or not — simply, because it’s too important of a country to be left to its own.

And this was all discussed in the lead-up to the election in 2000, when George Bush won. And it was, … They knew that if George Bush won, and with Ariel Sharon winning in Israel, that it was a pretty clear, you know, pretty clear that there would be a war coming out of this constellation of hard-line people.

It’s very similar to what happened in 1982 when you had Ronald Reagan and Menachem Begin in power. An ideologue like Reagan, and an ideologue like Bush, with a Likud politician like Ariel Sharon, you’re going to get conflict.

G&B: Who was Ali Mohammed, and what role did he play in creating the enemy to be fought in the “War on Terror”?

Bollyn: Well, Ali Mohammed was the first trainer for Osama bin Laden.

And what happened is that when the, of course, when the Soviet, the Red Army conquered Afghanistan there was this Mujahideen force that was dislocated into Pakistan. Afghans who were fighting against the Red Army for Afghanistan. And what happened is the United States — this is part of the Charlie Wilson story — congressman Charlie Wilson from Texas, he and the Saudi Arabians, and the Pakistanis, agreed to put up the money.

And what happened is that the Israelis under Ehud Barak — again — when Ehud Barak was head of military intelligence in 83, 84 and 85, I think it was, he began providing the weapons and the training for the Mujahideen, who were training in Pakistan, and then going back into Afghanistan and fighting.

And so what he did is, he took the weapons off the battlefield from Lebanon in 82, and transferred them to Pakistan. And the Pakistani government was aware that this was being done by Israel. It was secret and everything, but if they allowed it to go on, …

And one of the trainers who was training these Arabs, these Afghan Arabs they are called — people like Osama bin Laden — was a man called Ali Mohammed, who happens to be a Hebrew speaking agent, supposedly from Egypt, probably an Egyptian jew, or something. I don’t know. But he spoke Hebrew. And he learned Hebrew probably from being the trainer with the Israeli intelligence working in Pakistan. But this is the man who trained and set up all these operations that were done in the name of Osama bin Laden.

So he set up other operations as well, like the shooting in New York of Maher Kahana, and things like that.

Ali Mohammed then, was then finally arrested. And he had been trained in America, as well. He was then put in a federal penitentiary, a federal prison, and then he disappeared from the federal prison without a trace!

Kind of like what happened to Jeffrey Epstein.

G&B: What has your research revealed about the origins of the terrorist videos?

Bollyn: Well the terrorist videos, you know, they all have come to us from one source. And that source is SITE Intelligence Group. And recently there’s a couple more branches, derivatives of that group, but SITE Intelligence Group is a propaganda, … I call it a propaganda tool of the Israeli state.

It’s based in Maryland. Bethesda, Maryland. It’s run by an Iraqi jewish woman named Rita Katz. And these videos would be provided from her SITE Intelligence Group to the media, and the subscribers. And there was one of the videos back in, I know 2009, or something, about Osama bin Laden. And in that case she had sent this video, of a beheading, maybe it was a beheading video. She had sent this video out to several people in the administration, high up people in the government. And before it had been released [by ISIL]. And she told them:

“Don’t tell anybody had this video until it’s been released by the, …”

All Qaeda, or ISIL, whatever it was. But somehow it leaked. And so it became known that she had this video. This Israeli woman had this video and had released it to the media, before it had even been released by the people who were the terrorists!

So you have to say:

“Well how did this woman have the video before it’s even been released by the Arab terrorists?”

And this is the thing, is that in order to keep the “War on Terror” going, and to steer this monster, they have to occasionally do things, or bring out information or, you know, “interpret” what’s going on in the Middle East for the Americans.

And just like 9/11, how 9/11 was “interpreted”, it was interpreted for the United States government, for the military, by Ehud Barak. It’s the same thing what Rita Katz and SITE intelligence is doing, they are interpreting the Middle East for us.

And so what’s amazing is these groups like ISIS, and ISIL, and Al Qaeda, who can make all these flashy videos, and do all these things, are unable to actually reach the Western media themselves, directly. It always goes through this Israeli bottleneck, if you will.

And it’s interesting that you asked about what General Wesley Clark said about this policy coup. And he had said that when this happened, when 9/11 happened, he said that:

“We did not have American understanding of it.”

9/11, he’s talking about. And what he means to say is that, we didn’t, our understanding of 9/11 did not come from America, American sources, from American intelligence. It came to our understanding, it came from Israel. Israel interpreted 9/11 for us! And that’s the case all throughout the whole saga.

The whole deception of 9/11, you know, 9/11 was done in order to achieve a certain agenda. And that agenda was the “War on Terror”.

Now the “War on Terror” and the attacks the United States has done against the Arab states, makes no sense! It makes no sense for Osama bin Laden to do something like that. He didn’t do this big sophisticated attack, because he hates America liberties and freedoms!

It was done for a much more, much bigger reason.

And that reason was to start the “War on Terror”.

And the “War on Terror” is an Israeli construct. So that the sophistication of 9/11, and the end result of 9/11, strongly indicate that this is an Israeli, or a zionist operation, from A to Z!

And look at the actual memorial, the Ground Zero Memorial, in New York City. It was also designed and built by an Israeli! It was built by the former ambassador, Israeli ambassador’s son, Arad. Michael Arad.

G&B: Yes, with regard to the 9/11 memorial in New York City, I finally saw it a few years ago. And it’s very, very, dark! I was quite shocked by it!

It’s, a lot of, … I believe the museum is actually underground. And the waterfalls, there are these waterfalls that go down into the ground. In the shape of the footprints of the Twin Towers. But it’s very, it’s black looking! And then there’s this bizarre, huge white, it looks like the skeleton of  a dinosaur, or something! I mean, the wrong thing is really weird!

Bollyn: Yeah. And the guy that, … The architect who built it, the young fella, who was not hardly known, he’s a friend of Mayor Bloomberg. He’s also a very close friend of the Netanyahu family. He’s a friend, he’s a personal friend of Netanyahu’s son.

So it’s like the entire, you know, operation from the planning, and preparation, setting up the prediction, the “ideation” of the actual event, then the foisting of the deception, foisting the false narrative on the American public and the world, and then the actual control of the legacy, …

We’re talking about the memorial, you talk about the legacy, you’re talking about the place where, you know, school buses come every day. Dozens of school buses coming every day. And kids are taken off the bus and led through this place, and they’re basically taught the false narrative, they’re indoctrinated into the false narrative of what happened on 9/11! That 9/11 was done by these, you know, fanatical, Arab, Muslims.

And that’s why we are where we are today in the “War on Terror”.

And see, that’s why this book, the “War on Terror” is so important, because I wrote, … It’s a very small book. It’s only about 160 pages long, 170 many pages, because it’s very important for the public to understand that the “War on Terror” is a big fraud!

And the fraud of the “War on Terror” is related to the deception we’ve been told about 9/11. Like this book is really meant for the reader who already understands that we’ve been deceived about 9/11, and who did it. And the “War on Terror” book explains why we have been deceived, and who’s behind the deception.

G&B: You write that the real radicals are, in fact, the traitors in the political, and media arenas, who have pushed the lies about 9/11, and the “War on Terror”, since September 2001, as opposed to those who do real research on these events.

Bollyn: Right! Well, my chapter two of the book. It says:

“9/11 truth is anything but radical.”

And that stands to reason. A radical is somebody who calls for, like radical change in a political situation, and that’s what we got. A conservative is a person who says:

“Well let’s go slow, make incremental, small changes. Let’s not change everything overnight.”

But what happened with 9/11, of course, is that before there was any investigation into what happened on 9/11, the United Sates was waging war in Afghanistan! And the authorization to wage, you know, the authorization to use military force we were talking about, was passed.

And so this longest war in American history was started before there was even any investigation!

And when people call for a new investigation, they have to understand that there hasn’t been an investigation of 9/11! 9/11 remains an unsolved crime. Hence the title of my book “Solving 9/11”. It’s an unsolved crime in which the evidence was actually confiscated, and destroyed, rather than then analyzed.

So there’s been no criminal investigation, and there’s been no trial!

So it’s a very, very bizarre thing! And it says a lot about the, … I don’t know how to say this, … It’s how America has gotten so hijacked by a small group of people who control the media! And they’ve hijacked our nation for decades now, into this “War on Terror”! And it’s a war against the American people.

So it’s really important that they wake up and understand that if we want to preserve any kind of freedom in America, we have to understand how we’ve been duped into the “War on Terror”.

G&B: Have the multiple trillions of dollars spent to wage the global “War on Terror” been borrowed at interest?

Bollyn: Well yeah! It’s all borrowed money! Trump said a couple months ago, a few months ago, he said that:

“It’s seven trillion dollars.”

And what have we gotten for it? Nothing! Nothing!

Well, we’ve got a lot worse than that! We’ve gotten a big debt! A seven trillion dollars, plus the interest on that. And that debt is just growing all the time. But the actual cost of the war, including that future debt payments, and treatment for the wounded vets, and what have you, is about seven trillion dollars. It’s an incredible amount of money!

And so that’s why, you know, you look around America you see the homeless people, the situation with the infrastructure, the general demise of our nation. And you say:

“Couldn’t that money have been better spent, here at home, rather than waging mindless, senseless, wars against people who have nothing to do with 9/11, in distant countries?”

G&B: How is treason defined in the US Constitution? And how would treason apply to those who engaged in what the US government termed “an act of war”?”

Bollyn: Yeah, well, treason is, … Part of the treason argument is that by levying war against the United States government, by levying war against the American people, and the nation, … And anybody who supports that in any way — it says in the dictionary, about treason and the Constitution — is culpable of the same crime. So that would include people even in the media, who have willfully fed the deception.

You see it was an act of deception. It’s an ongoing, active, deception!

We have now for 18 years, this deception about 9/11 being presented in the media, whenever it’s discussed.

And so there’s been no investigation by the media. The media has been complicit in this deception against American people. And that means that they are responsible also for the crime of treason, because they are supporting, they are aiding, they are aiding and abetting in helping those who levied war against United States of America!

G&B: What effect have the 9/11 wars had on Syria?

Bollyn: Well Syria is just the latest. I don’t know if it’s the latest, there might be more going on in other places, but Syria is the second one of those countries that Yinon Plan [Oded Yinon] called for an Eastern Front. It said, first take out Iraq, breakdown the central government, the military, and balkanize the country.

Then the next country was Syria. In Syria, that’s what they’ve been doing.

And in Syria, of course, they used these self-created terrorist groups called ISIS and ISIL. And there’s a whole host of them. And these are the people that McCain was seen going over to. Senator McCain was seen meeting with them! And one of the people is thought to be, that he’s meeting with, is Al-Baghdadi, the one who they said they killed a couple weeks ago.

But he’s meeting with these people, these terrorists who ran these militias, these gangs, that were waging war against the government of Syria. So again, the target is to take down the central government of Syria, remove the regime of Bashar Al-Assad — which was elected after all — and replacing it with a broken up country! With, you know, one ethnic group here, one there, one there, one there! And they’ve succeeded in doing that.

And what they’ve really succeeded in doing is, the United States is occupying the eastern third of the country from the Euphrates River to the east, and that’s where the oil is. And now Trump is saying that we’re gonna use this war on terrorism to secure, or to maintain, control over Syria’s oil. And he says we’re doing this to keep the oil away from ISIS, ISIL. I don’t know.

One thing they’re trying to keep it away from, they’re definitely trying to keep it away from the Syrian government, because it’s the Syrian government who needs the oil, more than anybody.

G&B: Christopher Bollyn, thank you very much!

Bollyn: Well thank you Bonnie. It’s been a pleasure.

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ODIGO WARNINGS or One Israeli Death

 Nearly 500 foreign nationals from over 80 different nations were killed in the World Trade Center. The next day, September 12, the  Jerusalem Post reported that the Israeli embassy in America was bombarded on 9/11 with calls from 4,000 worried Israeli families. It quoted Israel’s PM Shimon Perez: ‘The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attack.’ [71] The Foreign Ministry had compiled the number from Israeli relatives who in the first few hours after the attack, contacted the Israeli Foreign Ministry and gave the names of Israeli friends and relatives who worked in the WTC or who had business scheduled in it or its adjacent structures. 

“Logic alone would tell you that there would be many hundreds, if not thousands of Israelis in the World Trade Center at the time of the attacks.

The international Jewish involvement in banking and finance is legendary. Two of the richest firms in New York are Goldman-Sachs and the Solomon Brothers; and both firms have offices in the Twin Towers. Many executives in these firms regularly commute back and forth to Israel. New York is the center of world wide  [72]Jewish financial power and the World Trade Center is at its epicenter. One would expect the Israeli death toll to be catastrophic.” 

On September13th, “Four Israelis were almost certainly in the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center when they collapsed, the Israeli consul in New York said this evening.” This number kept dwindling. A week later, President Bush stated that 130 had died, but 129 of these were found to be still alive. The NY times (22nd September) found that 3 Israelis were confirmed dead, two from planes and one from the Towers [73], [74]. Of this total the British historian David Irving wrote: “We are happy to report that the 4,000 figure dwindled eventually to three (not three thousand, but three), then two, then one: the unfortunate Daniel Lewin.” [75]Two Mossad agents were present, on Flight UA 175 and Flight AA 11 respectively: the latter had Daniel Lewin, a 28-year old graduate of Israel’s elite commando unit, the “World’s most elite anti- hijacking team”.

He was a captain in this unit, and the story soon developed that he had been shot by Satam Al Suqami, as the four Arabs attempted to storm the cockpit. (Satam was the one whose passport supposedly fluttered down to Ground Zero where the FBI found it). Sayeret Matkal is Israel’s elite team that handles aircraft hijackings and assassinations, specializing in aircraft takeovers. During the 1970s and 1980s, this secretive Israeli anti-terrorist unit (akin to the Delta Force) thwarted many attempted hijacks. Members of this unit are trained in looking and thinking like an Arab. Flight UA 175 (Boston to LA, allegedly hijacked to fly into the south tower) had the Israeli citizen and probable Mossad agent named Alora Avraham. This 27 year old was raised in the Israeli settlement of Ashdod. One surmises that Lewin may not have died, but had some key role in, whatever happened.

On the morning of 9/11, a two-hour advance warning to stay out of the towers was received by the Israeli firm of Odigo, [76] whose Research and Development center is in Herzliya, Israel, a town north of Tel Aviv where Mossad is headquartered. This messaging company, with its office a mere two blocks from the former WTC, received a warning originating from an Israeli branch. One never heard details, but Odigo’s vice president Alex Diamandis said, “The messages said something big was going to happen in a certain amount of time, and it did – almost to the minute.” Odigo has a feature called “People Finder” which allows a user to send an instant message to a large group based on a common characteristic, such as Israeli nationality, while maintaining user privacy. This is surely the explanation, as to why no Israeli nationals working in the Towers died that morning (there was one who died, but he was just visiting). “Comverse and Odigo have had a long-standing partnership and together have developed instant communications products and services that we have recently begun to offer to operators around the world,” declared Zeev Bregman, CEO of Comverse [77].

Nick Kollerstorm Who Did 9/11?

A View from Across the Pond

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ODIGO WARNINGS

In the first days and weeks after 9-11, I paid very close attention to the large number of Israeli terror suspects arrested, which was more than two hundred by November 2001, and investigated the published reports that an Israeli instant text message service had been used to warn Israelis of the attacks in New York, hours before they occurred. Many Israelis were evidently forewarned of the attacks through an Israeli instant messaging service called Odigo. This story, which presents the clearest evidence of Israeli prior knowledge of the attacks, was reported only very briefly in the U.S. media – and then forgotten.

According to the published reports, Israel-based employees of Odigo reported having received warnings of an imminent attack at the World Trade Center hours before the first plane hit the north tower. Odigo, an Israeli-owned company, had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the World Trade Center, but the forewarned Odigo employees did not pass the terror warning on to the authorities in New York, an act that would have saved thousands of lives.

Two weeks after 9-11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo's vice president, said, "The messages said something big was going to happen in a certain amount of time, and it did – almost to the minute." "It was possible that the attack warning was broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received reports of other recipients of the message," Diamandis said. Four thousand Israelis were expected to have been working at the World Trade Center on 9-11, yet only one was reported to have died at the complex. Based on the Israeli government figure that 4,000 Israelis were expected to have been at the World Trade Center at the time of the attacks, it seems evident that many Israeli Odigo users got the message of warning.

Odigo, which offers real-time messaging, has a feature called "People Finder" which allows a user to send an instant message to a large group based on a common characteristic, such as Israeli nationality. "People Finder" allows Odigo users to search for online "buddies," with filters like Israeli nationality, while maintaining user privacy at all times. The message was probably sent in Hebrew. The Internet address of the sender of the warning was allegedly given to the FBI. Two months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the matter. Since then there have been no further media reports about the Odigo warning of 9/11.

These two news stories about the fake Israeli "movers" and the Odigo messages, which clearly indicated that some Israelis had very specific prior knowledge of the attacks, were published in American and Israeli newspapers shortly after 9-11. Had the recipients of these Odigo instant messages contacted the New York police department, thousands of lives could have been saved. The question that has not been asked is, why didn't they?

CUI BONO?

There were several early indicators that Israelis were involved in 9-11 and that it was a spectacular "false flag" terror attack designed to serve as a casus belli to drag the United States    into the "War on Terror." Apart from the previously mentioned evidence of Israeli prior knowledge, there were also the amazingly insensitive comments of Netanyahu about 9-11 being "very good" in his view.

Netanyahu, it should be noted, is the author of several books which call for the western nations to engage in a global "War on Terror." Since 1986, Netanyahu has urged the United States and western democracies to take up arms against the enemies of Israel in the name of "fighting terrorism," which is the title of one of his books. The "terrorists" that Netanyahu wants the West to wage war on, however, all happen to be the people and states opposed to Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian land.

I approached the 9-11 investigation with a twenty-five year history of having lived in and followed the events of the Middle East. After many years of traveling in Europe and the Middle East, I obtained a degree in History from the University of California at Santa Cruz in 1992. My academic emphasis was on Palestine and Israel. After the first U.S. war against Iraq, which I was actively opposed to, I spent my final year of university training researching the Soviet occupation of the newly liberated Baltic republics and completing my courses at the University of Bergen in Norway.

Fate brought me into the proximity of another mass disaster on the morning of September 28, 1994, when I arrived by ship in Sweden and learned that the Baltic ferry named Estonia had sunk during the night with 852 victims lost at sea. My wife's first husband, a famous Estonian singer named Urmas Alender, was among the missing. While it was abundantly clear that something much more explosive than a "monster wave" had sunk the ferry, the Swedish government and media pretended that natural forces had caused the catastrophe. In the process of investigating what happened in the ferry disaster, I came to realize that a modern "democratic" state, like Sweden, could actually be complicit in the cover-up of the mass murder of hundreds of its own citizens.

When in the year 2000, I began working as a journalist for the Washington-based Spotlight, later to become the American Free Press, I turned my attention to the mysterious 1996 crash of TWA Flight 800 off the coast of New York. I attended the final sessions of the government agency (NTSB) involved in investigating the "crash" of Flight 800 and was appalled at the obvious cover-up of the facts. I watched how three Jewish members of the board completely dominated the NTSB final sessions and how the testimonies of more than 100 eyewitnesses, who had testified to having seen a streaking object hitting the aircraft in flight, were categorically dismissed because, according to a young Jewish member of the board, based on the time of the observations, all of the witnesses must have been drunk and hallucinating. After the two-day presentation of the NTSB findings there was no press conference or session allowing for questions from the media or public. This was clearly another cover-up.

I had also studied the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty and seen how the U.S. government and military had covered up the truth of the Israeli military attack on the unarmed Navy vessel off the coast of Egypt in 1967. With this background I approached the events of 9-11. Well aware of the history of false-flag terror, the overwhelming Zionist influence in government and media, and dishonest official investigations into recent mass disasters, I was a natural skeptic from the start.

Quote from the book Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed The World  by Christopher Bollyn